1 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:08,210 good afternoon and welcome to today's 2 00:00:12,710 --> 00:00:11,050 sts-135 mission status briefing the 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:12,720 first for the final mission of Atlantis 4 00:00:17,460 --> 00:00:15,730 we have today quatie Oliver oho the lead 5 00:00:19,109 --> 00:00:17,470 flight director for this mission they'll 6 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:19,119 start off with some opening comments and 7 00:00:23,370 --> 00:00:20,320 then we'll move on to your questions 8 00:00:25,470 --> 00:00:23,380 pottsy thank you good morning on good 9 00:00:28,639 --> 00:00:25,480 afternoon to some of you we've had an 10 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:28,649 absolutely outstanding morning on orbit 11 00:00:35,220 --> 00:00:32,110 today we executed the inspection of the 12 00:00:37,380 --> 00:00:35,230 shuttles thermal protection system that 13 00:00:39,689 --> 00:00:37,390 was carried out by manipulating the 14 00:00:42,180 --> 00:00:39,699 shuttle's robotic arm as well as the 15 00:00:44,580 --> 00:00:42,190 orbiter boom sensor system to do 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:44,590 detailed scans of the wing leading edge 17 00:00:50,729 --> 00:00:48,730 the shuttles nose cap and other areas 18 00:00:53,910 --> 00:00:50,739 associated with ground support 19 00:00:56,750 --> 00:00:53,920 umbilicals those scans were executed in 20 00:00:59,610 --> 00:00:56,760 absolute professional style by our crew 21 00:01:02,310 --> 00:00:59,620 led by commander Chris Ferguson pilot 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:02,320 Doug Hurley mission specialists sandy 23 00:01:07,350 --> 00:01:04,570 Magnus and Rex Walheim they got through 24 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:07,360 all of the activities of the inspection 25 00:01:14,550 --> 00:01:11,680 and ended up running about an hour to an 26 00:01:16,260 --> 00:01:14,560 hour and a half in ahead of time now as 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:16,270 far as the efficiencies that they gained 28 00:01:24,060 --> 00:01:20,530 in in executing the activities about 30 29 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:24,070 the 35 minutes of that time was was due 30 00:01:28,950 --> 00:01:27,040 to them just executing things quite well 31 00:01:30,540 --> 00:01:28,960 and being very efficient but they also 32 00:01:32,190 --> 00:01:30,550 chose to work through their their lunch 33 00:01:34,290 --> 00:01:32,200 break we get typically give them about 34 00:01:35,460 --> 00:01:34,300 an hour for lunch and so because they 35 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:35,470 work through their lunch break to try to 36 00:01:39,750 --> 00:01:37,570 get ahead of the timeline we ended up 37 00:01:42,210 --> 00:01:39,760 completing the inspections an hour ahead 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:42,220 of schedule what the crew has left on 39 00:01:47,340 --> 00:01:44,410 their day today is check out of their 40 00:01:49,620 --> 00:01:47,350 rendezvous tools as well as check out of 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:49,630 the orbiter docking system both of these 42 00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:51,370 are required in preparation for 43 00:01:57,180 --> 00:01:53,110 rendezvous and docking tomorrow 44 00:01:59,250 --> 00:01:57,190 additionally we have a second of two 45 00:02:01,980 --> 00:01:59,260 rendezvous burns that were on the plan 46 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:01,990 today we executed the so-called NC to 47 00:02:06,990 --> 00:02:03,970 burn earlier today and now we're going 48 00:02:08,609 --> 00:02:07,000 to execute the NC three burn in just a 49 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:08,619 couple of hours we're going to do that 50 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:10,690 that burned about an hour and a half 51 00:02:13,730 --> 00:02:12,730 earlier than we had originally scheduled 52 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:13,740 it in the timeline 53 00:02:19,820 --> 00:02:16,560 and basically that's to give the crew 54 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:19,830 credit for finishing the TPS inspections 55 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:21,210 early we'll let them do their rendezvous 56 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:24,450 burn early and thus we can give them a 57 00:02:29,090 --> 00:02:27,000 little bit more of a relaxed pre-sleep 58 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:29,100 time frame tonight so there won't be as 59 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:31,410 fatigue going into the critical phases 60 00:02:37,610 --> 00:02:33,680 of rendezvous and docking in the morning 61 00:02:40,490 --> 00:02:37,620 we continue to observe stellar 62 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:40,500 performance from Atlantis the ship has 63 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:42,570 been performing in beautiful fashion 64 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:44,010 we're not tracking any significant 65 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:47,130 issues the spacecraft and her crew all 66 00:02:51,620 --> 00:02:48,690 seemed to be doing very well and 67 00:02:53,630 --> 00:02:51,630 honestly we we couldn't be more happy 68 00:02:56,510 --> 00:02:53,640 with what we've seen from the crew n 69 00:02:59,300 --> 00:02:56,520 from atlantis in this first half of 70 00:03:01,930 --> 00:02:59,310 flight date too so we're looking forward 71 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:01,940 to a productive rest of the afternoon 72 00:03:07,580 --> 00:03:03,810 looking forward to putting the crew to 73 00:03:09,230 --> 00:03:07,590 bed on time they may even have have some 74 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:09,240 time to get to bed a little early if 75 00:03:13,850 --> 00:03:11,850 they wish and I think we'll be in in 76 00:03:15,230 --> 00:03:13,860 good shape for an excellent rendezvous 77 00:03:18,290 --> 00:03:15,240 docking with the international space 78 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:18,300 station tomorrow that concludes my 79 00:03:22,850 --> 00:03:20,250 opening comments and we'll be happy to 80 00:03:24,350 --> 00:03:22,860 take your questions okay we'll start 81 00:03:26,510 --> 00:03:24,360 here with questions of the Johnson Space 82 00:03:28,270 --> 00:03:26,520 Center in Houston and then we'll move on 83 00:03:31,420 --> 00:03:28,280 to our phone bridge participants 84 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:31,430 questions from here in Houston Phil 85 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:34,610 Phillips loss with NASA Space Flight com 86 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:37,170 the crew got as you said the crew got 87 00:03:42,490 --> 00:03:38,910 way ahead of the timeline today on the 88 00:03:45,530 --> 00:03:42,500 inspections is that typical for them and 89 00:03:47,180 --> 00:03:45,540 do you think that's going to help you in 90 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:47,190 the during the docked phase with all the 91 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:49,410 work that needs to be done ok there's 92 00:03:56,510 --> 00:03:53,850 great questions the performance of the 93 00:03:59,210 --> 00:03:56,520 activities on flight day two are often 94 00:04:02,180 --> 00:03:59,220 subject to a lot of variability depends 95 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:02,190 on the cruise how the crews are feeling 96 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:06,570 as well as as the overall tasking the 97 00:04:10,070 --> 00:04:07,770 number of people we have on the flight 98 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:10,080 deck today I think we had a lot of 99 00:04:14,780 --> 00:04:12,570 things working in our favor first of all 100 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:14,790 even though we did have we do have a 101 00:04:20,990 --> 00:04:17,810 smaller crew and of course that tends to 102 00:04:24,110 --> 00:04:21,000 put pressure on getting the activities 103 00:04:26,850 --> 00:04:24,120 completed on time we did have fewer 104 00:04:30,059 --> 00:04:26,860 bodies for the crew to trip over all 105 00:04:32,700 --> 00:04:30,069 so we are flying a very experienced crew 106 00:04:35,339 --> 00:04:32,710 that knows how to adapt to space 107 00:04:38,010 --> 00:04:35,349 conditions and so I think they're their 108 00:04:40,740 --> 00:04:38,020 adaptation to spaces has gone very 109 00:04:43,290 --> 00:04:40,750 quickly relative to what we sometimes 110 00:04:44,730 --> 00:04:43,300 see from from from other crews and so 111 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:44,740 all of these things taken in tandem 112 00:04:49,409 --> 00:04:47,770 their experience really allowed us to to 113 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:49,419 get ahead on the timeline and to execute 114 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:51,490 things efficiently so we're quite 115 00:04:57,629 --> 00:04:54,610 pleased we have seen this type of 116 00:04:59,309 --> 00:04:57,639 performance before although I think the 117 00:05:01,320 --> 00:04:59,319 performance of this particular crew on 118 00:05:03,209 --> 00:05:01,330 this set of activities is is probably 119 00:05:05,129 --> 00:05:03,219 near record breaking I think we we 120 00:05:06,929 --> 00:05:05,139 really were able to squeeze out 121 00:05:12,209 --> 00:05:06,939 considerable efficiencies from this crew 122 00:05:15,029 --> 00:05:12,219 today thanks mark Kuro for aviation week 123 00:05:16,830 --> 00:05:15,039 I had a couple of questions one I wonder 124 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:16,840 during the inspection at least from what 125 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:18,849 you could see in the control center did 126 00:05:26,010 --> 00:05:20,650 anything jump out or did you see 127 00:05:28,529 --> 00:05:26,020 basically pretty normal TPS ok not a 128 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:28,539 great question we did not see anything 129 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:32,050 so far that gave us great pause nothing 130 00:05:36,749 --> 00:05:34,479 that was that was immediately visible to 131 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:36,759 the naked eye now of course as you know 132 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:39,310 the process of analyzing the data we get 133 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:41,289 from the sensor package on the OB SS 134 00:05:46,980 --> 00:05:44,710 takes several hours and we do expect 135 00:05:49,559 --> 00:05:46,990 that process to go normally so we'll 136 00:05:52,050 --> 00:05:49,569 hear official word concerning the 137 00:05:54,570 --> 00:05:52,060 condition of the reinforced 138 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:54,580 carbon-carbon components of the thermal 139 00:05:59,399 --> 00:05:55,810 protection system will probably hear 140 00:06:00,719 --> 00:05:59,409 that late tomorrow maybe maybe early in 141 00:06:02,429 --> 00:06:00,729 the morning depending on how the 142 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:02,439 engineers are doing but there was 143 00:06:05,579 --> 00:06:04,330 nothing that that immediately gave us 144 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:05,589 pause or that we were concerned about 145 00:06:09,689 --> 00:06:07,930 going into the inspection and we also 146 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:09,699 saw a very good debris performance from 147 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:11,370 the tank on the way uphill yesterday so 148 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:15,520 that also that also was very encouraging 149 00:06:20,670 --> 00:06:19,089 to us in fact we were extremely happy 150 00:06:23,219 --> 00:06:20,680 with the launch yesterday as you can 151 00:06:25,019 --> 00:06:23,229 imagine which is a testament not only to 152 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:25,029 the the excellent performance of the 153 00:06:28,420 --> 00:06:26,770 team there at Kennedy Space Center but 154 00:06:30,310 --> 00:06:28,430 also the 155 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:30,320 the wonderful performance of the asset 156 00:06:35,650 --> 00:06:32,330 team under the leadership of mr. Richard 157 00:06:37,870 --> 00:06:35,660 Jones so we were very comfortable and 158 00:06:40,390 --> 00:06:37,880 very happy looking at the TPS going into 159 00:06:41,860 --> 00:06:40,400 the inspection today and we'll see what 160 00:06:45,550 --> 00:06:41,870 the detailed scans revealed to us 161 00:06:48,730 --> 00:06:45,560 tomorrow thanks my other question sort 162 00:06:52,090 --> 00:06:48,740 of had to do with the the pace of work 163 00:06:55,030 --> 00:06:52,100 you mentioned today that the that Chris 164 00:06:57,730 --> 00:06:55,040 Ferguson and his crew got a head 60 to 165 00:06:59,050 --> 00:06:57,740 90 minutes in fact there's a lot to do 166 00:07:01,680 --> 00:06:59,060 on this mission and I wonder how 167 00:07:04,180 --> 00:07:01,690 cognizant you are in the control center 168 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:04,190 of trying to kind of stay up on 169 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:06,470 everything so that you don't fall behind 170 00:07:11,050 --> 00:07:09,530 and I guess that's kind of a quality not 171 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:11,060 a quantitative question but I just 172 00:07:15,970 --> 00:07:13,250 wonder how conscious you are trying to 173 00:07:17,530 --> 00:07:15,980 make sure that they they don't fall back 174 00:07:21,490 --> 00:07:17,540 into a corner where they can't dig 175 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:21,500 themselves out okay for all of the the 176 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:23,330 controllers in on the flight control 177 00:07:27,820 --> 00:07:24,970 team starting with the flight director 178 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:27,830 myself Capcom as well as the other 179 00:07:33,700 --> 00:07:30,710 controllers we all try to imagine 180 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:33,710 ourselves executing the activities the 181 00:07:38,410 --> 00:07:36,490 crew has to execute each systems 182 00:07:40,930 --> 00:07:38,420 discipline specialist in the flight 183 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:40,940 control room monitors their activities 184 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:44,690 and and our first mandate really is to 185 00:07:48,940 --> 00:07:47,210 to stay abreast of what the crew is 186 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:48,950 doing and try to imagine and visualize 187 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:50,930 what they're doing is they prepare to 188 00:07:56,740 --> 00:07:54,160 throw switches as they are executing 189 00:07:59,890 --> 00:07:56,750 robotics operations as they work today 190 00:08:01,510 --> 00:07:59,900 for the TPS inspection and and the 191 00:08:03,220 --> 00:08:01,520 benefit that we as mission controllers 192 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:03,230 can provide to the crew is that we can 193 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:06,530 having imagine what they are doing and 194 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:09,650 and and and having focused intently on 195 00:08:14,500 --> 00:08:11,930 each of their tasks we can try to 196 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:14,510 anticipate areas where they might run 197 00:08:17,470 --> 00:08:16,010 into problems areas where they might 198 00:08:21,190 --> 00:08:17,480 have some tackling conflicts and 199 00:08:23,770 --> 00:08:21,200 recommend some some some redirection if 200 00:08:26,140 --> 00:08:23,780 you will or some additional efficiencies 201 00:08:27,970 --> 00:08:26,150 which might not have been built into the 202 00:08:29,290 --> 00:08:27,980 pre-flight timeline and which the crew 203 00:08:30,970 --> 00:08:29,300 themselves might not have been able to 204 00:08:33,220 --> 00:08:30,980 think of and so that's one of the things 205 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:33,230 that work in our favor today is is we 206 00:08:37,420 --> 00:08:35,120 had not only wonderful performance from 207 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:37,430 the crew but my flight control team also 208 00:08:42,190 --> 00:08:41,030 did a fantastic job doing what I asked 209 00:08:44,110 --> 00:08:42,200 them to do and what what 210 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:44,120 they have trained to do which is to look 211 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:47,690 ahead to stay in perfect lockstep with 212 00:08:52,750 --> 00:08:49,490 the crew and we actually did recommend 213 00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:52,760 some some surgical changes to the 214 00:08:58,450 --> 00:08:55,670 sequence of events that allowed them to 215 00:09:03,250 --> 00:08:58,460 to extract the maximum efficiency from 216 00:09:05,230 --> 00:09:03,260 from from their great performance dan 217 00:09:06,820 --> 00:09:05,240 vergano with USA Today I two questions 218 00:09:08,830 --> 00:09:06,830 the first is could you discuss a little 219 00:09:10,210 --> 00:09:08,840 bit about what goes into the decision 220 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:10,220 about extending the mission at this 221 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:11,690 point is it mostly how much fuel and 222 00:09:15,430 --> 00:09:13,850 repellent gets used in the maneuver with 223 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:15,440 the space station tomorrow or is it sort 224 00:09:19,540 --> 00:09:17,450 of overall performance that sort of 225 00:09:22,210 --> 00:09:19,550 builds you the margin to do that okay 226 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:22,220 it's actually all the above as far as 227 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:24,050 what what goes into our decision to 228 00:09:30,010 --> 00:09:26,090 extend a day in fact I'm glad you asked 229 00:09:32,020 --> 00:09:30,020 that because we do have have some run 230 00:09:34,510 --> 00:09:32,030 time on our fuel cells and and what I 231 00:09:36,850 --> 00:09:34,520 can report to you today is that with 232 00:09:38,410 --> 00:09:36,860 respect to our most limiting consumable 233 00:09:40,930 --> 00:09:38,420 which in this case is the cryogenic 234 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:40,940 oxygen and hydrogen required to generate 235 00:09:46,390 --> 00:09:43,730 electrical power with respect to those 236 00:09:50,050 --> 00:09:46,400 consumables we lift it off with 237 00:09:53,410 --> 00:09:50,060 sufficient oxygen and hydrogen to to 238 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:53,420 give us what we believe is about 20 22 239 00:10:00,250 --> 00:09:57,440 23 hours above our nominal 12 plus zero 240 00:10:03,130 --> 00:10:00,260 plus two day timeline so we are 241 00:10:07,090 --> 00:10:03,140 executing the power conserving measures 242 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:07,100 that we develop pre-flight and so we're 243 00:10:10,810 --> 00:10:08,510 going to continue to watch the system 244 00:10:15,250 --> 00:10:10,820 over the next day or two and I fully 245 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:15,260 expect that by about flight day 4 will 246 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:16,970 be able to report to you that that we 247 00:10:22,450 --> 00:10:20,240 are seeing stable enough margins to 248 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:22,460 where we can recommend extending a day 249 00:10:26,890 --> 00:10:24,770 we carried sufficient propellant to 250 00:10:28,810 --> 00:10:26,900 orbit with us to extend today with no 251 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:28,820 problem and as I said we've got 252 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:31,130 sufficient quantity of other consumables 253 00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:33,170 and the crew seems to be doing very well 254 00:10:38,860 --> 00:10:36,020 so I think we will probably get there 255 00:10:40,780 --> 00:10:38,870 again don't take that to the bank until 256 00:10:43,870 --> 00:10:40,790 until until we talk in another day or 257 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:43,880 two but right now everything is is on 258 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:46,130 track for us to be able to extend the 259 00:10:49,540 --> 00:10:48,410 day as long as we continue to see good 260 00:10:51,370 --> 00:10:49,550 performance from the crew good 261 00:10:52,750 --> 00:10:51,380 performance from the spacecraft and as 262 00:10:55,870 --> 00:10:52,760 long as the other mission activity 263 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:55,880 go nominally and my second question was 264 00:10:59,710 --> 00:10:58,490 regarding just the quickness with which 265 00:11:01,990 --> 00:10:59,720 they are able to do the inspection today 266 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:02,000 could you just maybe I'm repeating that 267 00:11:06,490 --> 00:11:04,010 the previous question but how much of 268 00:11:07,900 --> 00:11:06,500 that was this sort of crew being doing 269 00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:07,910 this a good job of this and how much of 270 00:11:11,670 --> 00:11:09,710 it was not seeing any marks that made 271 00:11:13,630 --> 00:11:11,680 you or problems and made you stop and 272 00:11:15,970 --> 00:11:13,640 inspect more carefully in a position 273 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:15,980 okay well let me let me further address 274 00:11:23,380 --> 00:11:19,010 by saying that that the the presence or 275 00:11:25,150 --> 00:11:23,390 absence of any issues or any occlusions 276 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:25,160 or imperfections in the thermal 277 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:28,130 protection system that has no bearing on 278 00:11:34,420 --> 00:11:30,290 the amount of time that it takes we have 279 00:11:36,010 --> 00:11:34,430 a very set pattern of scan over the RCC 280 00:11:38,170 --> 00:11:36,020 that we will execute in all cases 281 00:11:40,150 --> 00:11:38,180 whether there are any areas of concern 282 00:11:44,260 --> 00:11:40,160 now if there are areas of concern that 283 00:11:47,380 --> 00:11:44,270 we identify prior to the scan we may may 284 00:11:49,930 --> 00:11:47,390 take additional time to stop and stare 285 00:11:53,260 --> 00:11:49,940 if you will once we get to that point in 286 00:11:55,330 --> 00:11:53,270 the scan but but but generally that has 287 00:11:57,550 --> 00:11:55,340 no bearing on it what would really 288 00:11:59,800 --> 00:11:57,560 allowed us to get from the beginning of 289 00:12:02,230 --> 00:11:59,810 the the TPS inspection to the end this 290 00:12:05,470 --> 00:12:02,240 time as quickly as we did I believe was 291 00:12:07,090 --> 00:12:05,480 was a positive convergence of all of the 292 00:12:09,250 --> 00:12:07,100 positive behaviors that we've tried to 293 00:12:12,220 --> 00:12:09,260 build into this aspect of the mission 294 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:12,230 starting with the flight plan our flight 295 00:12:16,630 --> 00:12:14,210 activities officer and other planners 296 00:12:19,300 --> 00:12:16,640 put together a very efficient sequence 297 00:12:22,660 --> 00:12:19,310 of events in cooperation with all of the 298 00:12:24,730 --> 00:12:22,670 the various subsystem owners who make 299 00:12:27,730 --> 00:12:24,740 the input so we started with an 300 00:12:29,830 --> 00:12:27,740 efficient plan the training team 301 00:12:33,580 --> 00:12:29,840 contributed tremendously to the success 302 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:33,590 today in training our crew to execute 303 00:12:37,270 --> 00:12:35,570 these activities efficiently as well as 304 00:12:39,310 --> 00:12:37,280 training the flight control team and 305 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:39,320 training us together and challenging us 306 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:41,210 to think about where we can extract 307 00:12:45,580 --> 00:12:43,310 further efficiencies and then of course 308 00:12:48,610 --> 00:12:45,590 there is the actual on-orbit crew who is 309 00:12:51,130 --> 00:12:48,620 is very experienced in and have given 310 00:12:54,190 --> 00:12:51,140 great attention to finding ways to be 311 00:12:58,150 --> 00:12:54,200 efficient and finding ways to leverage 312 00:13:00,490 --> 00:12:58,160 the human resource that they have on 313 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:00,500 board in the best possible manner so you 314 00:13:05,860 --> 00:13:03,200 put all of these things together and 315 00:13:09,910 --> 00:13:05,870 and it ended up working to our benefit 316 00:13:12,580 --> 00:13:09,920 today in past missions we may have a 317 00:13:15,250 --> 00:13:12,590 great performance in say three out of 318 00:13:16,990 --> 00:13:15,260 four of these areas and and we may 319 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:17,000 finish on time or may finish only 320 00:13:24,190 --> 00:13:19,730 slightly later than we planned and in 321 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:24,200 other missions we might see some some 322 00:13:29,620 --> 00:13:27,170 misalignment with respect to satellite 323 00:13:33,220 --> 00:13:29,630 availability and our ability to get the 324 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:33,230 sensor data down in real-time as as as 325 00:13:37,710 --> 00:13:35,930 well as we did today so it really is a 326 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:37,720 combination of all of these factors 327 00:13:44,290 --> 00:13:42,050 which no one of which is more important 328 00:13:46,090 --> 00:13:44,300 than the other in my view that it really 329 00:13:48,490 --> 00:13:46,100 that have really worked 22 the good 330 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:48,500 today so hopefully that that helps 331 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:52,130 explain that a bit more okay we're going 332 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:53,690 to go now questions from the phone 333 00:13:58,900 --> 00:13:55,610 bridge I think first hour less does the 334 00:14:01,300 --> 00:13:58,910 Associated Press yes thanks Seth 335 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:01,310 Borenstein at 8p and if I I do have a 336 00:14:06,850 --> 00:14:04,610 follow-up just going that you're saying 337 00:14:09,670 --> 00:14:06,860 you said you were on a near record pace 338 00:14:12,990 --> 00:14:09,680 for efficiency here also you can't help 339 00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:13,000 in those when looking at the flight 340 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:16,160 execute package no anomalies whatsoever 341 00:14:21,820 --> 00:14:18,050 I'm wondering if you can look at this 342 00:14:24,420 --> 00:14:21,830 and have you seen such a clean first 343 00:14:29,140 --> 00:14:24,430 full day in orbit combined with such a 344 00:14:31,870 --> 00:14:29,150 such an efficient day I'm wondering if 345 00:14:36,220 --> 00:14:31,880 this is you know once you've got into 346 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:36,230 over one of the cleanest best most 347 00:14:41,530 --> 00:14:38,810 efficient flights you've seen apne I 348 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:41,540 know you you're relatively new in the 349 00:14:47,610 --> 00:14:43,910 position but in general is this one of 350 00:14:50,350 --> 00:14:47,620 the best so start so far to a mission I 351 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:50,360 think this is certainly one of the 352 00:14:55,750 --> 00:14:52,610 better starts that we have seen and i'll 353 00:14:59,410 --> 00:14:55,760 tell you one area where i think that 354 00:15:02,860 --> 00:14:59,420 Atlantis has really helped us is the the 355 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:02,870 absence of anomalies also equals the 356 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:05,810 relative absence of distraction from the 357 00:15:09,610 --> 00:15:07,490 efficiencies that you try to gain and 358 00:15:11,530 --> 00:15:09,620 executing the nominal timeline you know 359 00:15:13,330 --> 00:15:11,540 even though we we haven't had really 360 00:15:15,470 --> 00:15:13,340 serious problems with a shuttle in a 361 00:15:18,949 --> 00:15:15,480 while when you do have the 362 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:18,959 mendham heater failure or a sensor bias 363 00:15:24,889 --> 00:15:21,930 or some other little thing you know we 364 00:15:26,930 --> 00:15:24,899 go through a fairly rigorous process to 365 00:15:28,670 --> 00:15:26,940 try to examine anomalies and to try to 366 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:28,680 make sure that they are not symptoms of 367 00:15:32,629 --> 00:15:31,170 more serious problems that might be 368 00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:32,639 threatening to the the mission or 369 00:15:37,819 --> 00:15:34,079 threatening to the spacecraft or crew 370 00:15:39,310 --> 00:15:37,829 and so examining every failure or every 371 00:15:41,569 --> 00:15:39,320 anomaly that we have does take 372 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:41,579 considerable mental resource on the part 373 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:43,410 of our flight control team the relative 374 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:44,910 absence of that I think has allowed our 375 00:15:50,060 --> 00:15:47,490 team to focus more on executing the the 376 00:15:51,769 --> 00:15:50,070 nominal timeline and so one has to 377 00:15:53,870 --> 00:15:51,779 believe that that's that's helped 378 00:15:57,470 --> 00:15:53,880 contribute to the the efficiency of 379 00:16:00,319 --> 00:15:57,480 today's so far follow up on that here 380 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:00,329 you are it is one of the cleanest best 381 00:16:07,069 --> 00:16:03,769 flights ever it is also the last one 382 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:07,079 care that means don't you find it a 383 00:16:11,629 --> 00:16:09,690 little ironic and disturbing that here 384 00:16:16,970 --> 00:16:11,639 you're reaching sort of the pinnacle of 385 00:16:20,990 --> 00:16:16,980 efficiency and and you know just flying 386 00:16:23,449 --> 00:16:21,000 well and and it ends um in a way 387 00:16:25,460 --> 00:16:23,459 wouldn't it be easier if the shuttles 388 00:16:30,670 --> 00:16:25,470 were showing their age at the end then 389 00:16:33,370 --> 00:16:30,680 showing just maturity instead of age 390 00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:33,380 yeah I can certainly appreciate your 391 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:36,800 observation I personally instead of 392 00:16:43,069 --> 00:16:40,170 focusing on the the irony I tend to look 393 00:16:46,009 --> 00:16:43,079 at the opportunity on this the last 394 00:16:48,439 --> 00:16:46,019 shuttle mission of the program I'm very 395 00:16:51,470 --> 00:16:48,449 grateful that the spacecraft is behaving 396 00:16:55,340 --> 00:16:51,480 as well as it is so that we can finish 397 00:16:58,220 --> 00:16:55,350 strong finish safely as as you all have 398 00:17:01,069 --> 00:16:58,230 heard me say before my team's number one 399 00:17:04,429 --> 00:17:01,079 focus is on ending this mission and 400 00:17:08,090 --> 00:17:04,439 ending the program as safely as we have 401 00:17:10,039 --> 00:17:08,100 flown last missions and so the the great 402 00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:10,049 condition the spacecraft is is really 403 00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:13,709 helping us to to do that so far and I 404 00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:15,510 see that as a tremendous tremendous 405 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:18,510 opportunity it helps us enjoy the 406 00:17:22,579 --> 00:17:20,850 mission more honestly when we're not as 407 00:17:24,169 --> 00:17:22,589 worried about falling behind the 408 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:24,179 timeline and of course we still have to 409 00:17:28,399 --> 00:17:26,490 be very vigilant you know this is just 410 00:17:29,390 --> 00:17:28,409 flight day two we've got we've got 411 00:17:31,370 --> 00:17:29,400 plenty more opportunities 412 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:31,380 to fall behind and experience problems 413 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:35,520 but we'll do our best to avoid that okay 414 00:17:41,420 --> 00:17:39,570 I think next up is CBS oh yeah watch 415 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:41,430 this bill Harwood just a real quick when 416 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:43,530 looking ahead to talking can you talk a 417 00:17:46,850 --> 00:17:45,330 little bit in detail about what the crew 418 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:46,860 does with four people on board for 419 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:48,810 docking that makes a little more of a 420 00:17:53,690 --> 00:17:50,370 challenge than when you have safe six or 421 00:17:56,570 --> 00:17:53,700 seven on board Thanks sure thing the big 422 00:17:58,010 --> 00:17:56,580 thing for my team did to be cognizant of 423 00:18:00,110 --> 00:17:58,020 in that and the thing that we have put 424 00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:00,120 some extra emphasis on in training is 425 00:18:06,470 --> 00:18:03,480 the fact that as we get to those closer 426 00:18:08,330 --> 00:18:06,480 terminal phases of the approach and 427 00:18:10,130 --> 00:18:08,340 docking pretty much all of the crew 428 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:10,140 members all four of them will be on the 429 00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:13,290 flight deck each of them playing a 430 00:18:18,890 --> 00:18:16,080 different and critical role in in 431 00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:18,900 actually executing the the safe approach 432 00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:20,880 and docking for instance commander Chris 433 00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:22,980 Ferguson will will be at the stick if 434 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:25,440 you will controlling the thrusters and 435 00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:27,450 and guiding the spacecraft into the 436 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:30,120 approaching docking the pilot Doug 437 00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:33,570 Hurley will be assisting with management 438 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:35,310 of the guidance navigation control 439 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:37,760 system management of the autopilot 440 00:18:42,110 --> 00:18:40,050 management of the thruster 441 00:18:44,270 --> 00:18:42,120 configurations which have to change a 442 00:18:46,550 --> 00:18:44,280 few times between the various phases of 443 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:46,560 the approaching docking mission 444 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:48,570 specialist sandy Magnus and Rex Walheim 445 00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:51,090 will be doing a combination of 446 00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:54,230 communicating with the ground as well as 447 00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:56,370 siting on the International Space 448 00:19:02,570 --> 00:19:00,000 Station with the manual range-finding 449 00:19:04,850 --> 00:19:02,580 devices like the handheld laser and so 450 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:04,860 when you think about the flow of things 451 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:07,170 that that have to occur there on the 452 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:08,730 flight deck for a successful perch and 453 00:19:13,220 --> 00:19:10,890 docking all four of them will really be 454 00:19:17,060 --> 00:19:13,230 engaged especially as we get very close 455 00:19:18,620 --> 00:19:17,070 after we execute the RPM and and start 456 00:19:20,540 --> 00:19:18,630 to maneuver on to the v-bar for the 457 00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:20,550 final approach and so what that means 458 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:23,280 for us is that if there are sort of any 459 00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:25,050 random things and I don't want to say 460 00:19:29,630 --> 00:19:27,120 necessarily random but but miscellaneous 461 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:29,640 things is a good term miscellaneous 462 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:31,650 systems reconfigurations that have to be 463 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:34,350 done because we're going to be filling 464 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:36,090 water bags to prepare to transfer to the 465 00:19:39,890 --> 00:19:37,770 ISS which means that we'll have some 466 00:19:42,649 --> 00:19:39,900 switch throws that we have to execute 467 00:19:44,749 --> 00:19:42,659 from time to time to fill the water 468 00:19:47,419 --> 00:19:44,759 to start the phils stop the phils change 469 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:47,429 bags reconfigure the pressure control 470 00:19:50,749 --> 00:19:49,049 system to manage the pressure in the 471 00:19:53,210 --> 00:19:50,759 cabin various other ancillary things 472 00:19:55,419 --> 00:19:53,220 that are not directly related to 473 00:19:58,999 --> 00:19:55,429 actually physically flying the bird 474 00:20:01,070 --> 00:19:59,009 those things we've got fewer hands and 475 00:20:02,570 --> 00:20:01,080 fewer minds available to really give 476 00:20:05,389 --> 00:20:02,580 attention to those things which means 477 00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:05,399 that for MCC we have to be much more 478 00:20:10,580 --> 00:20:08,159 surgical in how we call up those 479 00:20:12,049 --> 00:20:10,590 instructions and how we manage the 480 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:12,059 systems because we're used to having 481 00:20:16,159 --> 00:20:14,129 plenty of people around either on the 482 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:16,169 mid-deck or the flight deck to to 483 00:20:20,389 --> 00:20:18,450 reconfigure the heaters on the cryogenic 484 00:20:24,289 --> 00:20:20,399 oxygen and nitrogen and hydrogen tanks 485 00:20:25,369 --> 00:20:24,299 or to start and stop water backfills we 486 00:20:28,249 --> 00:20:25,379 just have to be a little bit more 487 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:28,259 judicious about how we how we manage 488 00:20:33,349 --> 00:20:30,210 those systems so that we can delay those 489 00:20:38,419 --> 00:20:33,359 calls when appropriate and get them in 490 00:20:45,769 --> 00:20:38,429 when we've got the opportunity I think 491 00:20:48,169 --> 00:20:45,779 that's from your bill but we're not 492 00:20:51,969 --> 00:20:48,179 hearing mr. Harwood any further so let's 493 00:20:55,879 --> 00:20:51,979 move on to Targ malik with space com 494 00:20:57,979 --> 00:20:55,889 thank you classy it's a tag nozzle space 495 00:21:03,219 --> 00:20:57,989 out comment i've got i think one in a 496 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:03,229 follow-up one is a referring to the 497 00:21:09,169 --> 00:21:07,289 surveys today you mentioned near record 498 00:21:10,129 --> 00:21:09,179 breaking or record-setting of with 499 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:10,139 decreased performance today i was 500 00:21:15,169 --> 00:21:11,450 wondering if you had kind of an exact 501 00:21:16,969 --> 00:21:15,179 number in terms of how long it took or 502 00:21:19,879 --> 00:21:16,979 or if they had a really efficient number 503 00:21:22,219 --> 00:21:19,889 of robotic arm moves if you had any of 504 00:21:24,529 --> 00:21:22,229 those kinds of statistics for the survey 505 00:21:27,529 --> 00:21:24,539 today that would be great I apologize to 506 00:21:30,469 --> 00:21:27,539 our Chi I really don't I'd have to go 507 00:21:33,109 --> 00:21:30,479 back through all of the the previous TPS 508 00:21:37,099 --> 00:21:33,119 surveys that we've done typically the 509 00:21:40,039 --> 00:21:37,109 crews do run they're either able to get 510 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:40,049 ahead or finish on time by working 511 00:21:44,719 --> 00:21:41,970 through lunch in fact I daresay most of 512 00:21:47,450 --> 00:21:44,729 the crews work through their lunch time 513 00:21:49,810 --> 00:21:47,460 to do the inspections a lot of times 514 00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:49,820 what we will see and what is typical of 515 00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:52,320 the flight day two inspections is that 516 00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:54,960 we we tend to run a bit behind 517 00:21:58,580 --> 00:21:56,760 on executing the first part of the 518 00:22:01,279 --> 00:21:58,590 inspection which is the starboard wing 519 00:22:04,909 --> 00:22:01,289 survey we tend to run behind sometimes 520 00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:04,919 because either communication coverage 521 00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:07,710 for the satellites doesn't line up for 522 00:22:11,630 --> 00:22:09,120 us because we share those satellites 523 00:22:13,340 --> 00:22:11,640 with other users of course and so 524 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:13,350 sometimes that might delay us in 525 00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:16,610 execution of some of the activities 526 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:18,960 sometimes the crews are just a little 527 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:21,330 bit slower because they they just might 528 00:22:25,340 --> 00:22:23,490 not be feeling as well due to space 529 00:22:26,779 --> 00:22:25,350 adaptation and therefore they take a 530 00:22:28,909 --> 00:22:26,789 little bit of extra time to make sure 531 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:28,919 that they do things right given that 532 00:22:33,139 --> 00:22:30,809 they're not necessarily feeling it 533 00:22:35,690 --> 00:22:33,149 they're at their peak and so what we 534 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:35,700 usually see i would say tarik more often 535 00:22:41,419 --> 00:22:38,250 than not what we usually see is that for 536 00:22:43,580 --> 00:22:41,429 the first one or two phases of the 537 00:22:46,430 --> 00:22:43,590 inspection we are running a bit behind 538 00:22:48,409 --> 00:22:46,440 and then we sort of make up the deficit 539 00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:48,419 by working through the crews lunch such 540 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:50,460 that at the end of the day we've sort of 541 00:22:55,340 --> 00:22:52,890 ended on time and so what was very 542 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:55,350 unusual about today is that we didn't 543 00:22:59,570 --> 00:22:56,970 fall behind it all but we actually ran 544 00:23:01,519 --> 00:22:59,580 ahead and the crews still chose to 545 00:23:03,980 --> 00:23:01,529 contribute their their their lunch 546 00:23:05,330 --> 00:23:03,990 period to to work through the 547 00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:05,340 inspections and therefore we ended up 548 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:07,289 getting very far ahead so I'm sorry I 549 00:23:09,649 --> 00:23:08,730 don't have an exact figure for you but 550 00:23:13,820 --> 00:23:09,659 that's probably the best way I could 551 00:23:17,210 --> 00:23:13,830 describe what's happened today thank you 552 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:17,220 I think just a real quick ones that I'm 553 00:23:22,490 --> 00:23:19,110 just wondering with the only being for 554 00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:22,500 folks on the on the shuttle if they kind 555 00:23:27,649 --> 00:23:24,320 of mentioned at all to Mission Control 556 00:23:29,899 --> 00:23:27,659 evenly even in passing if it does feel a 557 00:23:32,389 --> 00:23:29,909 bit more roomier if it's a little bit 558 00:23:35,539 --> 00:23:32,399 more comfortable if they pull GA in like 559 00:23:39,620 --> 00:23:35,549 that okay the the crew has not mentioned 560 00:23:41,630 --> 00:23:39,630 anything about that to us however as a 561 00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:41,640 flight director I've gone through much 562 00:23:46,430 --> 00:23:43,919 of the training that the crews gone 563 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:46,440 through at least a lot of the the 564 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:48,809 mock-up training in classroom training 565 00:23:52,399 --> 00:23:50,130 that they that they've gone through as 566 00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:52,409 part of my own certification and my 567 00:24:00,049 --> 00:23:56,159 Capcom who's a flown astronaut dr. Steve 568 00:24:03,379 --> 00:24:00,059 Robinson who's a veteran space flyer he 569 00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:03,389 very much helps calibrate us on what the 570 00:24:08,450 --> 00:24:06,799 cruise conditions might be in we 571 00:24:11,390 --> 00:24:08,460 understand 572 00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:11,400 sort of what they're doing from minute 573 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:13,110 to minute and from activity to activity 574 00:24:18,260 --> 00:24:16,110 and we know for a fact that that the 575 00:24:21,980 --> 00:24:18,270 shuttle definitely feels roomier to them 576 00:24:23,870 --> 00:24:21,990 in fact it's probably usually much more 577 00:24:25,790 --> 00:24:23,880 cramped with six or seven people on 578 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:25,800 board then then we usually hear because 579 00:24:30,860 --> 00:24:27,450 astronauts really don't don't don't like 580 00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:30,870 to complain at all so we know that that 581 00:24:35,090 --> 00:24:32,640 is creating some great conditions for 582 00:24:37,490 --> 00:24:35,100 them it's probably helping the 583 00:24:40,430 --> 00:24:37,500 environment as far as the the air 584 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:40,440 quality and the air temperature feel 585 00:24:43,550 --> 00:24:41,850 much more comfortable to them without 586 00:24:46,130 --> 00:24:43,560 without an additional two or three 587 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:46,140 bodies throwing heat and co2 into the 588 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:47,760 atmosphere so all these things I think 589 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:50,610 they're probably they're probably quite 590 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:55,050 comfortable right now thank you and just 591 00:24:59,360 --> 00:24:56,970 my last question I know that you started 592 00:25:00,890 --> 00:24:59,370 out o work on the station before 593 00:25:03,740 --> 00:25:00,900 switching the shuttle flight control and 594 00:25:06,830 --> 00:25:03,750 tomorrow will be the last shuttle 595 00:25:09,410 --> 00:25:06,840 docking at the space station and I'm 596 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:09,420 wondering if what that might mean to you 597 00:25:13,490 --> 00:25:11,520 and your team and if you have any 598 00:25:15,230 --> 00:25:13,500 insights what that might mean to the the 599 00:25:17,030 --> 00:25:15,240 crew because I I know they'll be busy 600 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:17,040 with the actions as opposed to with the 601 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:20,010 reflecting on on on the moment in the 602 00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:23,130 morning tomorrow thanks well with each 603 00:25:28,580 --> 00:25:25,440 mission there are several events that 604 00:25:30,590 --> 00:25:28,590 really are defining moments I believe 605 00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:30,600 several nominal events that are defining 606 00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:32,400 moments in the mission launch of course 607 00:25:38,110 --> 00:25:35,670 is is is is one of the most important 608 00:25:42,050 --> 00:25:38,120 landing is one of the most important 609 00:25:44,450 --> 00:25:42,060 docking and undocking as well as the EV 610 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:44,460 a's whenever there are EV a's on a 611 00:25:50,270 --> 00:25:47,010 mission those tend to be defining 612 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:50,280 moments and very unique and well defined 613 00:25:55,910 --> 00:25:53,210 milestones the docking tomorrow 614 00:26:00,110 --> 00:25:55,920 represents one of those milestones to me 615 00:26:02,570 --> 00:26:00,120 that will be a significant hurdle as far 616 00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:02,580 as accomplishing the the mission and 617 00:26:09,140 --> 00:26:06,720 concluding it safely and so you know my 618 00:26:11,410 --> 00:26:09,150 team generally tends to feel a great 619 00:26:14,570 --> 00:26:11,420 sense of relief and accomplishment 620 00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:14,580 whenever we successfully dock the 621 00:26:17,930 --> 00:26:15,840 shuttle to the International Space 622 00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:17,940 Station Space Station team I know feels 623 00:26:22,820 --> 00:26:20,880 the same way because I've been in that 624 00:26:24,410 --> 00:26:22,830 been in that boat and have worked worked 625 00:26:27,610 --> 00:26:24,420 a rendezvous and docking on the station 626 00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:27,620 side as well for me personally I 627 00:26:35,210 --> 00:26:32,190 consider it really a tremendous honor to 628 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:35,220 use a term I you know that we heard 629 00:26:41,030 --> 00:26:39,170 earlier almost ironic that that I as a 630 00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:41,040 homegrown Space Station flight 631 00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:43,440 controller and somebody that started my 632 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:44,700 flight director career on the space 633 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:47,130 station side has the the privilege and 634 00:26:53,390 --> 00:26:49,890 it really is a privilege to be able to 635 00:26:55,340 --> 00:26:53,400 guide the very last space shuttle to its 636 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:55,350 very last docking with the International 637 00:26:59,690 --> 00:26:57,690 Space Station I still feel a tremendous 638 00:27:02,060 --> 00:26:59,700 sense of responsibility for the space 639 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:02,070 station even when I'm at the helm of the 640 00:27:06,620 --> 00:27:04,770 shuttle flight control team and I feel a 641 00:27:09,860 --> 00:27:06,630 tremendous responsibility for the space 642 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:09,870 shuttle obviously and so I just feel a 643 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:13,290 great sense of gratitude really at being 644 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:16,710 able to participate in this historic 645 00:27:26,180 --> 00:27:22,050 rendezvous and docking you know okay 646 00:27:28,990 --> 00:27:26,190 we'll move on to Florida today thanks 647 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:29,000 very much James Dean from Florida today 648 00:27:33,530 --> 00:27:31,050 class we just kind of following up on 649 00:27:37,310 --> 00:27:33,540 that last questions as you're reflecting 650 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:37,320 on this stuff the the RPM if not a 651 00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:39,690 defining moment certainly among the more 652 00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:42,510 dramatic that we get to see during 653 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:46,590 flights so just wondering maybe that's 654 00:27:50,770 --> 00:27:47,850 something you have a chance to sort of 655 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:50,780 take in and enjoy more as opposed to the 656 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:53,600 intensity of the docking operation and 657 00:27:57,020 --> 00:27:55,290 specifically I was wondering I don't 658 00:28:00,110 --> 00:27:57,030 remember seeing that thousand millimeter 659 00:28:05,690 --> 00:28:00,120 camera do you have extra cameras on this 660 00:28:07,310 --> 00:28:05,700 rpm fur is so for any reason okay on the 661 00:28:10,540 --> 00:28:07,320 last mission as you know we did use the 662 00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:10,550 the camera with the 1000 millimeter lens 663 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:15,510 to take pictures of endeavours TPS 664 00:28:20,930 --> 00:28:18,210 system endeavours tiles just to give us 665 00:28:24,020 --> 00:28:20,940 some higher resolution pictures the 800 666 00:28:25,730 --> 00:28:24,030 millimeter lens photos and the 400 that 667 00:28:28,030 --> 00:28:25,740 are standard they're more than 668 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:28,040 sufficient the the 1000 millimeter 669 00:28:33,940 --> 00:28:31,770 photos just gave us even better data we 670 00:28:35,950 --> 00:28:33,950 plan to get one 671 00:28:38,289 --> 00:28:35,960 thousand millimeter photos on this rpm 672 00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:38,299 as well so we do have that called out in 673 00:28:41,740 --> 00:28:39,769 the the crews timeline and they're 674 00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:41,750 prepared to do that unless there are 675 00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:44,000 some problems that arise or some tasking 676 00:28:48,610 --> 00:28:45,710 issues that arise for the station crew 677 00:28:51,549 --> 00:28:48,620 that would preclude that for this RPM 678 00:28:55,659 --> 00:28:51,559 tomorrow I'm very much hoping that we 679 00:28:57,940 --> 00:28:55,669 end up having good good k you ban high 680 00:29:00,250 --> 00:28:57,950 data rate com coverage from the 681 00:29:01,779 --> 00:29:00,260 International Space Station on my last 682 00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:01,789 shuttle flight is lead flight director 683 00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:06,049 that was sts 113 februari of 2010 we 684 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:07,600 were fortunate because the trajectory 685 00:29:13,450 --> 00:29:10,250 for that for that launch worked out such 686 00:29:16,690 --> 00:29:13,460 that we had good line of sight with the 687 00:29:18,879 --> 00:29:16,700 ISS high rate communication system and 688 00:29:22,659 --> 00:29:18,889 the ISS was able to downlink in 689 00:29:25,149 --> 00:29:22,669 real-time video of the the shuttle and 690 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:25,159 endeavour for that mission performing 691 00:29:30,250 --> 00:29:27,110 it's our rpm and that was a very very 692 00:29:31,899 --> 00:29:30,260 special moment for my controllers in the 693 00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:31,909 shuttle flight control room who were 694 00:29:36,879 --> 00:29:34,880 were heavily engaged in that rendezvous 695 00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:36,889 and docking I'm hoping that we have 696 00:29:40,990 --> 00:29:38,870 similar luck tomorrow if we don't then 697 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:41,000 of course we'll do what we normally do 698 00:29:45,940 --> 00:29:44,090 which is again focus intensely on on on 699 00:29:48,850 --> 00:29:45,950 the execution of the activities watch 700 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:48,860 the data so that we can can help the 701 00:29:53,919 --> 00:29:52,130 crew but hopefully we've got some good 702 00:29:57,820 --> 00:29:53,929 visuals that that we can get in real 703 00:30:01,000 --> 00:29:57,830 time to really commemorate I should say 704 00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:01,010 and help us enjoy these moments one of 705 00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:02,630 the things that I do think about on the 706 00:30:06,669 --> 00:30:04,760 rare occasion that that I'm not thinking 707 00:30:09,070 --> 00:30:06,679 about actual mission execution I think 708 00:30:11,769 --> 00:30:09,080 about something that gene Kranz said and 709 00:30:14,259 --> 00:30:11,779 in one of the specials that was that was 710 00:30:16,990 --> 00:30:14,269 filmed about the Apollo era how when he 711 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:17,000 looks back on it he he remembers that 712 00:30:23,169 --> 00:30:20,240 that he and his team in his words didn't 713 00:30:25,299 --> 00:30:23,179 didn't really enjoy the moment of 714 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:25,309 landing on the moon as much as many 715 00:30:28,779 --> 00:30:26,510 other people did because they were so 716 00:30:30,669 --> 00:30:28,789 intensely focused on on the tasks that 717 00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:30,679 they had to perform which were 718 00:30:34,210 --> 00:30:32,750 monitoring the health and performance of 719 00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:34,220 the spacecraft making sure everything 720 00:30:38,049 --> 00:30:36,049 went well making sure that that nobody 721 00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:38,059 got hurt killed as they as they 722 00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:39,960 attempted to land on the moon and 723 00:30:44,590 --> 00:30:41,760 and as the astronauts stepped out on the 724 00:30:46,790 --> 00:30:44,600 moon obviously our priority is 725 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:46,800 monitoring the spacecraft making sure 726 00:30:52,460 --> 00:30:48,770 that everything is executed flawlessly 727 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:52,470 but being able to see pictures in real 728 00:30:57,050 --> 00:30:54,210 time whenever we are fortunate enough to 729 00:30:59,540 --> 00:30:57,060 be able to get that without without 730 00:31:01,700 --> 00:30:59,550 having to downlink it later those are 731 00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:01,710 just bonuses that make the moment 732 00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:04,740 special so that these people with whom I 733 00:31:08,660 --> 00:31:06,840 have the privilege of sharing this 734 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:08,670 mission you know we can look each other 735 00:31:13,370 --> 00:31:11,010 in the eye and you know today and and 736 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:13,380 tomorrow and maybe a year or so from now 737 00:31:19,730 --> 00:31:15,450 and say wow do you remember when we we 738 00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:19,740 saw Atlantis doing a backflip underneath 739 00:31:24,850 --> 00:31:21,240 the space station for the very last time 740 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:24,860 while wasn't that special so we'll see 741 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:27,690 Thanks i also know that you've mentioned 742 00:31:33,980 --> 00:31:31,410 space adaptation a couple times can you 743 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:33,990 speak a little bit too you know what's 744 00:31:41,390 --> 00:31:37,650 typical for you know any given crew or 745 00:31:42,980 --> 00:31:41,400 crew member to experience and I mean I 746 00:31:45,050 --> 00:31:42,990 know it varies every individual 747 00:31:48,770 --> 00:31:45,060 individual is different but is it 748 00:31:51,770 --> 00:31:48,780 something that having flown before you 749 00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:51,780 know automatically makes less likely or 750 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:53,310 their start there's things these guys 751 00:31:58,790 --> 00:31:56,730 would learn to do to mitigate it or is 752 00:32:00,980 --> 00:31:58,800 it just kind of random or lucky whether 753 00:32:03,710 --> 00:32:00,990 you whether you feel it or not you know 754 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:03,720 it's a it's a very complex subject one 755 00:32:08,690 --> 00:32:05,010 of the things that's fortunate is we 756 00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:08,700 have a tremendous amount of data from 757 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:11,340 human subjects on space adaptation one 758 00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:12,570 of the things that we've seen from the 759 00:32:18,650 --> 00:32:16,080 data is that there is considerable 760 00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:18,660 variability based on on crew members 761 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:21,360 there are some crew members who have 762 00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:23,490 flown in space for the very first time 763 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:26,640 and barely get sick or barely have any 764 00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:29,130 issues there are some crew members who 765 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:33,030 are veteran flyers and they you know 766 00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:36,450 have have have some discomfort like 767 00:32:41,390 --> 00:32:38,910 clockwork one of the things that we do 768 00:32:43,220 --> 00:32:41,400 know is that there are some some 769 00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:43,230 countermeasures there's some medical 770 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:44,910 there's some pharmacological 771 00:32:50,210 --> 00:32:47,100 countermeasures they're just some good 772 00:32:52,270 --> 00:32:50,220 practice sort of things that that help 773 00:32:55,290 --> 00:32:52,280 with adaptation 774 00:32:57,820 --> 00:32:55,300 and and although there is not a direct 775 00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:57,830 physiological correlation between the 776 00:33:02,790 --> 00:32:59,360 number of times persons flown in space 777 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:02,800 and how quickly they adapt some of those 778 00:33:07,570 --> 00:33:05,090 procedural countermeasures those things 779 00:33:09,460 --> 00:33:07,580 that that tend to help crewmembers adapt 780 00:33:11,910 --> 00:33:09,470 if you have flown before they tend to 781 00:33:14,170 --> 00:33:11,920 know those things they tend to be very 782 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:14,180 well-versed in what has worked for them 783 00:33:18,010 --> 00:33:16,130 in the past and what doesn't work and so 784 00:33:20,110 --> 00:33:18,020 that might provide a bit of an advantage 785 00:33:24,010 --> 00:33:20,120 and of course each of these crew members 786 00:33:26,110 --> 00:33:24,020 is a lone crewmember so again that's 787 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:26,120 that's not a precise answer but but then 788 00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:27,530 again we know with it when we're talking 789 00:33:31,930 --> 00:33:29,840 about human physiology there are 790 00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:31,940 relatively few precise answers because 791 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:35,240 people are different just last real 792 00:33:38,980 --> 00:33:36,890 quick foam is a basically nausea we're 793 00:33:45,370 --> 00:33:38,990 talking about or is it like dizziness or 794 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:45,380 anything else all debuff okay we'll 795 00:33:50,860 --> 00:33:47,450 bring the questions back here to Johnson 796 00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:50,870 Space Center nope so let's lost with 797 00:33:55,450 --> 00:33:53,360 NASA Space Flight calm again book hate a 798 00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:55,460 bookkeeping question on your craw 799 00:34:01,510 --> 00:33:58,970 margins do you need to get 24 hours 800 00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:01,520 above above your 12 plus zero or is it 801 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:04,910 more than that okay great question for 802 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:08,570 us to to really in in good conscience 803 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:11,450 commit to an extra energy dependent day 804 00:34:16,899 --> 00:34:14,690 we like to see at least some positive 805 00:34:19,210 --> 00:34:16,909 margin above the additional day so for 806 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:19,220 instance our baseline mission duration 807 00:34:25,899 --> 00:34:22,610 for this flight is 12 plus 0 plus 2 at 808 00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:25,909 launch we were able to show about 23 809 00:34:32,050 --> 00:34:28,190 hours so for us to commit to the extra 810 00:34:33,970 --> 00:34:32,060 day we want to see well over 24 hours it 811 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:33,980 doesn't have to be 24 and a half per se 812 00:34:40,570 --> 00:34:36,770 but but if we are showing a stable 813 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:40,580 amount of margin that's that's over 24 814 00:34:44,740 --> 00:34:42,530 so that we know we've got that extra 815 00:34:46,899 --> 00:34:44,750 days sort of in the bank that's pretty 816 00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:46,909 much that's pretty much what would would 817 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:49,250 give us a lot of confidence that we can 818 00:34:58,510 --> 00:34:54,560 we can count on that extra day anything 819 00:35:00,700 --> 00:34:58,520 else here all right with that will wrap 820 00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:00,710 up this briefing just a look ahead on 821 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:02,240 the television schedule will have 822 00:35:04,690 --> 00:35:04,010 today's mission management team briefing 823 00:35:07,450 --> 00:35:04,700 at 824 00:35:09,339 --> 00:35:07,460 p.m. central for Eastern and then 825 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:09,349 Atlantis's crew is scheduled to go to 826 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:13,250 sleep at 629 p.m. central 729 Eastern 827 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:15,200 remember that all the latest information 828 00:35:22,359 --> 00:35:18,530 on the sts-135 mission is available on 829 00:35:33,220 --> 00:35:22,369 the internet at www a COV thanks for 830 00:35:37,370 --> 00:35:35,120 you 831 00:35:39,410 --> 00:35:37,380 hi I'm James O'Connor I'm Christina 832 00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:39,420 Gosling I'm Kevin Metro cabbage I'm 833 00:35:43,279 --> 00:35:41,369 moose Kimball i'm jonathan hoffman and 834 00:35:45,140 --> 00:35:43,289 I'm pooja Joshi we are the attitude 835 00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:45,150 determination control officer team on